Why Seller Representation at Closing Matters More Than You Think — A Wilmington, NC Real Estate Insider's Take

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After more than 25 years working with home sellers here in Wilmington NC Real Estate, I've seen just about every closing scenario imaginable. Smooth ones, complicated ones, and ones that could have gone sideways in ways nobody anticipated. But lately, I've been having more and more conversations with my seller clients about something that doesn't get nearly enough attention: dedicated seller representation at the closing table. This isn't about pointing fingers at attorneys or the existing system — it's about making sure you, as a seller, are fully protected when you sign one of the most important legal documents of your life.
- North Carolina is an attorney closing state — but the closing attorney typically represents the buyer, not the seller.
- Seller document preparation fees run $250–$400, but dedicated seller representation typically costs only $600–$700 — a small price for significant legal protection.
- For estate sales, inherited properties, trust situations, or complex title issues, seller representation isn't optional — it's essential.
- Step-up basis, fair market value appraisals, and tax implications can mean the difference between owing nothing and owing hundreds of thousands of dollars.
- Many closing attorneys are currently understaffed — meaning sellers may not get a scheduled appointment or direct attorney access without dedicated representation.
- Once the deed is signed and recorded, you cannot go back and fix mistakes — getting it right the first time is everything.
North Carolina Is an Attorney Closing State — What That Actually Means for Sellers
One of the first things I explain to anyone moving to or selling in the Wilmington area is that North Carolina operates differently from many other states when it comes to real estate closings. In states like Florida or Texas, title companies routinely handle closings. Here in NC, licensed attorneys are required to oversee the closing process — and that's actually a consumer protection that most people don't fully appreciate.
But here's the nuance that trips up a lot of sellers: the closing attorney in most transactions is hired by and represents the buyer — or more precisely, the buyer's lender. Their job is to ensure the title is clear, the loan documents are properly executed, and the transaction closes cleanly from the buyer's perspective. That's not a criticism — that's just the role they're filling in the transaction.
As a seller, you are not the closing attorney's client. You are a party to the transaction that the attorney needs to process. The same attorney can also handle what's called seller document preparation — preparing and notarizing the deed and related seller documents — but that's a limited, ministerial function. It is not the same as having an attorney who is working for you, answering your questions, and protecting your specific legal and financial interests.
For the majority of straightforward transactions — you've owned the home for years, you live there, there's no estate or trust involved, no liens or title complications — the standard process works fine. The buyer's attorney handles everything, the seller doc prep gets done, and everyone goes home happy. But the moment any complexity enters the picture, that system starts to show its limitations.
The closing process in NC requires careful attention to detail — especially for sellers with complex situations.
I've helped sellers across virtually every Wilmington NC neighborhood and community — from established neighborhoods near Mayfaire to waterfront properties in Masonboro to new construction in the Porters Neck corridor. The more I work in this market, the more I see sellers unknowingly leave money on the table — or worse, create future tax problems — simply because they didn't have their own attorney at closing.
Seller Doc Prep vs. Seller Representation: Understanding the Difference
Let me break this down clearly because it's a distinction that matters enormously. Seller document preparation is a transactional service. The closing attorney — the same one representing the buyer — prepares the deed, the seller's closing disclosure, and any other documents the seller needs to sign. The fee for this service typically ranges from $250 to $400, sometimes a bit more depending on complexity or whether a mobile notary is involved.
There's nothing inherently wrong with this service. For decades, it's been the standard way transactions close in our market, and the vast majority of those closings have gone smoothly. The attorney is a professional, the documents get prepared correctly, and the deed gets recorded. Done.
Seller representation is something entirely different. When you have your own attorney representing you as a seller, that attorney's loyalty is to you — not to the buyer, not to the lender, not to the transaction. They review the contract terms with your interests in mind, they can negotiate on your behalf if issues arise during the title search, and most importantly, they sit down with you and answer your questions. They explain what you're signing. They flag potential problems before they become expensive mistakes.
The cost difference between these two options is surprisingly small. Where seller doc prep might run $300–$400, dedicated seller representation typically costs $600–$700 — sometimes billed hourly if the situation is complex. For the peace of mind and legal protection that comes with having your own counsel, that's an extraordinarily small investment relative to the size of the transaction you're completing.
It's worth noting that in commercial real estate transactions and development deals, seller representation is essentially standard practice — it's just expected that both sides will have their own attorneys. Somehow, that same standard hasn't carried over to residential transactions, even though the financial stakes for individual homeowners can be just as significant. That's something I think needs to change, and it's a shift I'm actively making in how I work with my seller clients.
The Deed Signing Process in NC — Why Timing and Accuracy Are Everything
Here's something that surprises many sellers when I explain it: in North Carolina, the deed signing doesn't happen at the closing table on closing day. It happens several days before closing. This is a critical distinction that affects everything about how the process needs to be managed.
The reason for this timing is that once the deed is signed, the closing attorney needs to submit it for review by the title insurance company to confirm that the deed is transferring correctly and that title insurance will cover it. If there's a lender involved — which there almost always is on the buyer's side — the lender also needs to approve the deed. This review process takes time, and it cannot happen on closing day itself.
Additionally, the deed requires a wet signature — meaning a real, in-person, notarized signature. Electronic signatures are not accepted for deed execution in North Carolina. This isn't just a formality; it's a legal requirement that ensures the authenticity and enforceability of the property transfer. After the deed is signed and approved, it must be physically recorded at the county Register of Deeds office before closing can occur.
What this means practically is that the deed signing appointment — which used to be a scheduled, sit-down meeting with the attorney — is actually one of the most important steps in the entire transaction. It's not a formality. It's a legal event with real consequences if anything is wrong. And yet, as I've been seeing more and more frequently, some offices have moved to an informal "come by anytime" model where sellers sign in the reception area with minimal guidance. I've seen this happen, and it's not acceptable for something this significant.
Once that deed is recorded, it is extremely difficult — and in some cases impossible — to correct errors without going back to court. The time to get it right is before you sign, not after. This is precisely why I'm advocating for sellers to have their own attorney who will schedule proper time, review the deed carefully, and answer every question before pen touches paper.
Estate Sales, Inherited Properties, and the Tax Implications Nobody Talks About
If there's one category of seller situation where dedicated legal representation moves from "highly recommended" to "absolutely essential," it's estate sales and inherited properties. And given the demographic trends in Wilmington — we have a large and growing retiree population, many of whom have owned property here for decades — these situations are becoming increasingly common.
The concept that matters most in these situations is step-up in basis. When you inherit property, the IRS generally allows the cost basis of the property to be "stepped up" to the fair market value at the time of the original owner's death. This is enormously valuable because it means that if you sell the property shortly after inheriting it, you may owe little to no capital gains tax — even if the property has appreciated significantly over the decades the deceased owned it.
But here's the problem: if the estate wasn't properly closed, if the deed was never correctly transferred, or if the step-up basis was never properly documented, you could find yourself facing a massive and entirely avoidable tax liability. I'm not a tax attorney or CPA, and I'm careful to tell my clients that — but I know enough to know when someone needs to talk to one before they sign anything. A closing attorney doing $300 worth of seller doc prep is not going to walk you through the nuances of step-up basis, fair market value appraisals, or the generational tax consequences of how a deed is structured.
Beyond step-up basis, estate sales can involve complications like improperly closed prior estates, missing deeds from previous transfers, liens or judgments that weren't properly released, or multiple heirs with competing interests. Any one of these issues can derail a closing — or worse, close without anyone realizing there's a problem, only for the issue to surface years later when the buyer tries to sell. At that point, the original sellers may have legal exposure they never anticipated.
I also want to mention that estate sales often come bundled with questions about other estate planning matters — life estates, trusts, how to handle the proceeds, what to do with other assets. When you have your own attorney who's already engaged in your transaction, those conversations happen naturally. You're already paying for their time, you already have their ear, and suddenly you're getting advice on matters that could affect your family for generations. That kind of integrated planning simply doesn't happen when you're signing in a reception area.
Estate sales in Wilmington NC require careful legal review to protect sellers from unintended tax consequences.
According to the National Association of Realtors, a significant percentage of residential transactions involve some form of estate or trust complication — and that number is growing as the Baby Boomer generation continues to transfer wealth. In a market like Wilmington, where many long-term residents have owned property since the 1970s and 80s, the potential for complex title histories and estate issues is particularly high. If you're exploring homes across our Wilmington Neighborhoods, understanding these nuances before you buy or sell is critical.
A Real Story: How One Complex Estate Sale Revealed the True Value of Seller Representation
Let me tell you about a transaction I was involved in recently — one that illustrates everything I've been talking about in a very real, very tangible way. I'll keep the specific details private out of respect for the family involved, but the broad strokes are important to share because this kind of situation is far more common than most people realize.
It was an estate sale — a family situation involving multiple parties, multiple properties, and what turned out to be several transactions that were interconnected and effectively domino'd into each other. On the surface, it looked like a straightforward sale. But as we started digging in, it became clear that a prior estate had not been properly closed. Deeds hadn't been cut correctly. Step-up basis issues were unresolved. And the tax implications — if left unaddressed — could have been hundreds of thousands of dollars in unnecessary liability, not just for the current sellers but potentially for the next generation as well.
I referred this family to an attorney I've known for nearly 30 years — a man named Alan. Alan is one of the sharpest legal minds I've encountered in this business. He works independently now, handles commercial deals, rights of way, subdivision work, and complex transactions. No paralegals, no assistants — just Alan, his experience, and his direct attention to your matter. He bills by the hour, and he works until noon every day. He doesn't do closings anymore, but he represents sellers and handles exactly the kind of complex, multi-layered situations this family was facing.
What happened next is exactly what seller representation is supposed to look like. Alan answered the phone when they called. He had a real conversation with them — not a rushed intake call, but an actual discussion about their situation. He scheduled a proper sit-down meeting. He went through every aspect of the transaction, explained the step-up basis issues, advised them to get a retroactive fair market value appraisal, and helped them understand the generational implications of how the deed was structured. He also identified issues from the prior estate that needed to be corrected before the new transaction could close cleanly.
The transaction did get complicated — I won't pretend otherwise. There were moving parts on our side as agents too. But in the end, everything closed correctly, the family was protected, and they walked away understanding exactly what they'd sold, what their tax position was, and what steps they needed to take going forward. None of that would have happened if they'd gone the standard doc prep route for a couple hundred dollars. This is a story I think about every time someone asks me whether seller representation is really worth it.
I've written before about the importance of having the right team and the right processes in place — as you can read in the story of How a 2-Star Experience Became a 5-Star Sale: M.K.'s Story, sometimes it takes a difficult experience to reveal where the gaps are. Seller representation at closing is one of those gaps that I'm committed to closing for every client I work with.
The Understaffed Attorney Problem — And Why It's Getting Worse
I want to be very clear about something: I have tremendous respect for the closing attorneys I work with in this market. Many of them are brilliant professionals who have been doing this work for decades, and I've built strong relationships with several of them over my career. What I'm about to describe is not a criticism of any individual attorney — it's a systemic issue that's affecting the entire industry right now.
When the real estate market slowed down in 2022 and 2023 as interest rates rose sharply, many closing offices — like many businesses in the real estate ecosystem — had to make difficult staffing decisions. Paralegals were let go. Support staff was reduced. Overhead was cut. That's just economic reality. Now, as the market has started picking back up in many areas, those same offices are dealing with increasing transaction volume without the staff to handle it.
I've personally experienced situations recently where I couldn't get an attorney on the phone — and I'm the seller's agent, actively involved in the transaction. If I'm having trouble getting access, imagine what a seller trying to get their questions answered is facing. It's not malicious — it's just capacity. But the consequence for sellers is real: less scheduled time, less direct attorney access, and a closing experience that can feel rushed and impersonal.
And I'll be honest about the role that agents like me play in this problem. We're the ones calling attorneys at the last minute saying, "Hey, we just got a cash offer, it needs to close in 10 days, can you squeeze it in?" We're part of the pressure that creates the capacity crunch. So I'm not going to stand here and only point at attorneys — we all have a role in creating the environment where closings feel rushed and sellers don't get the attention they deserve.
The solution, as I see it, is two-fold. First, as agents, we need to build in more lead time and stop creating artificial urgency that puts everyone under pressure. Second, and more importantly for sellers, having your own attorney means you have someone whose entire focus is on your transaction — not on the 15 other closings happening that week. You get scheduled time. You get direct access. You get answers. That's what you're paying for, and it's worth every penny.
For anyone curious about what the current market looks like and how transaction volume is trending in our area, I'd encourage you to read our latest Wilmington NC Real Estate Market Update: What's Happening — it provides helpful context for understanding why activity levels are climbing again and why preparation matters more than ever.
When You Absolutely Need Dedicated Seller Representation
Let me give you a clear, practical framework for deciding whether you need dedicated seller representation or whether the standard doc prep process is sufficient for your situation. I'll start with the simple cases and work up to the complex ones.
Standard doc prep is likely fine if: You are the sole owner of the property. You've lived there for years. You purchased it outright or with a straightforward mortgage. There are no liens, judgments, or title complications. You're not selling as part of an estate or trust. You have no significant capital gains concerns. In other words, it's a clean, simple transaction with no unusual variables.
You should strongly consider seller representation if:
- The property is being sold as part of an estate or probate process
- You inherited the property and there may be step-up basis or capital gains implications
- The title history is complicated — multiple prior owners, old liens, or gaps in the chain of title
- There are active or potential judgments against you or a co-owner
- The property is held in a trust and the trustee needs guidance on the proper execution
- You have significant capital gains exposure and want to understand your options before closing
- The transaction involves multiple properties or is part of a larger financial restructuring
- You have questions about life estates, 1031 exchanges, or other tax-advantaged strategies
- You simply want the peace of mind of having your own counsel review everything
That last point is worth emphasizing. Even if your transaction is relatively simple, there's nothing wrong with wanting your own attorney. The cost difference is minimal. The value — in terms of confidence, clarity, and protection — is significant. And as I always tell my clients: the time to find out there's a problem is before you sign, not after.
I've shared stories of how the right approach from the beginning makes all the difference — including in Brittany S.'s 5-Star Review & the Listing Agreement Story, which walks through how setting the right expectations and having the right processes in place from day one leads to exceptional outcomes. The closing process is no different.
What Does Seller Representation Actually Cost? A Realistic Breakdown
One of the biggest misconceptions I encounter is that getting your own attorney as a seller is going to cost a lot of money. The reality is that the difference between standard doc prep and dedicated seller representation is often just a few hundred dollars — and in the context of a transaction worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, that's essentially rounding error.
Here's a realistic breakdown of what you can expect in the current Wilmington market:
- Standard seller doc prep (through buyer's closing attorney): $250–$400 for straightforward transactions. May increase for complexity or mobile notary services.
- Dedicated seller representation (flat fee): Typically $600–$700 for standard representation, including a scheduled consultation, deed review, and closing attendance.
- Hourly representation for complex matters: For estate sales, trust transactions, or situations requiring significant legal research, hourly billing applies. An experienced attorney billing at $300–$400/hour for 2–3 hours is still a remarkably small investment relative to the tax exposure being mitigated.
- Retroactive fair market value appraisal: $400–$600 for a residential property appraisal, which can document step-up basis and protect against future IRS scrutiny. Worth every dollar for inherited properties.
When I walked the family in our estate sale story through these numbers, the math was immediately obvious. They were looking at potential tax exposure in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. The total cost of having their own attorney — including all consultations, the closing representation, and the appraisal — was a few thousand dollars at most. The return on that investment was extraordinary.
I also want to point out that seller representation costs are typically deducted from the seller's proceeds at closing — meaning you're not writing a check out of pocket. It comes off the settlement statement along with all the other closing costs. You can use our Home Sale Calculator to model your net proceeds and see exactly how these costs fit into your overall picture before you make any decisions.
And if you're on the buying side of the equation, or if you're trying to understand what you can afford as part of your overall financial planning, our Affordability Calculator and Mortgage Calculator are excellent starting points for running the numbers.
Pricing Strategy, Experience, and Why the Right Agent Changes Everything
I want to step back for a moment from the closing process specifically and talk about the broader context of what it takes to successfully sell a home in today's market — because the closing is just one piece of a much larger puzzle. And frankly, if you've gotten to the closing table, you've already navigated the hardest parts: pricing, marketing, negotiating, and managing the transaction through all its stages.
I've been doing this since 1998, and one thing I've learned is that pricing strategy is what sells homes — not marketing, not photography, not social media posts, as much as all of those things matter. If your home is priced correctly for the current market, it will sell. If it's priced wrong, no amount of marketing will fix it. Having honest, sometimes difficult conversations with sellers about realistic pricing is one of the most important things I do — and it's something that separates agents who are actually good at this job from those who just tell sellers what they want to hear.
The same principle applies to the closing process. The "cheap" option might look attractive on the surface, but if it leaves you exposed to tax liability, title issues, or legal complications, it wasn't actually cheap at all. Experience and expertise cost something — whether you're talking about an agent, an attorney, or any other professional involved in your transaction. The question is whether the cost is proportionate to the value delivered, and in almost every case with seller representation, the answer is a resounding yes.
I also want to acknowledge that the market we're in right now requires more sophistication than ever. Buyers are more educated, financing is more complex, and the legal landscape around real estate transactions continues to evolve. Having an experienced agent who understands all of this — and who has relationships with the right attorneys, inspectors, lenders, and other professionals — is genuinely valuable. If you're considering selling and want to understand what your home might be worth in today's market, I'd love to have that conversation. You can also browse our featured homes to get a sense of what's currently active in the market.
For buyers who are currently searching for homes, I'd encourage you to use our Property Search to explore current listings, or set up a Property Tracker account so you're notified the moment a home matching your criteria hits the market. And if you're attending open houses in the area, check our current Open Houses schedule to find upcoming events near you.
We recently covered a great example of what the right preparation and attention to detail looks like in our post about a Move-In Ready Home in Windy Woods — that kind of presentation, combined with the right pricing and legal preparation, is what creates smooth, successful transactions for everyone involved.
Final Thoughts: Slow Down, Do It Right, Protect Your Equity
The real estate industry — agents, attorneys, lenders, everyone — has a tendency to move fast. Fast offers, fast closings, fast everything. And sometimes speed is genuinely valuable, especially in a competitive market where a cash buyer can close in 10 days and that speed has real monetary value to a seller. I get it, and I've been part of those fast transactions many times.
But speed should never come at the cost of doing things correctly. The deed you sign is a permanent legal document. The tax position you establish at closing can affect your family for generations. The title history you create — or fail to create correctly — becomes the next buyer's problem and potentially your legal liability. These are not things you can rush through and fix later. They need to be done right the first time, every time.
My commitment to my seller clients is to have the hard conversations early — about pricing, about market realities, about the closing process, and about whether they need their own attorney. Not every seller will need dedicated legal representation. But every seller deserves to have someone who will tell them honestly whether they do, rather than just taking the path of least resistance.
If you're not working with me and you have questions about closing attorneys in the Wilmington area — whether you need a referral, want to understand your options, or just want to talk through your specific situation — I'm happy to help. I've been in this market for over 25 years, and I have strong relationships with some excellent attorneys who do this work the right way. Reach out anytime through our Contact page and I'll point you in the right direction.
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Host: Hey, welcome to Buddy Blake's podcast. I'm your host, and today we've got Buddy Blake himself in the house. He's a real estate agent here in Wilmington, North Carolina, and he's got something really important he wants to talk about, the world of closings for sellers. And honestly, from what I've been hearing, this is something a lot of people don't think about until it's too late.
Host: So Buddy, thanks for being here, man. Hi, my name is Buddy Blake, and I'm a real estate agent here in Wilmington, North Carolina, and I just wanted to have a conversation about today's world of closings for sellers. I work primarily with home sellers. I'm very good, I think, after all these years at negotiating, having real hard conversations up front, setting realistic expectations, not just telling sellers what they want to hear, and also just sharing the news that all the marketing in the world is wonderful, but that is not typically what sells your house.
Host: It's gonna be your pricing strategy, and then once we get it under contract, it's gonna be all the steps that it takes to get through there. And I think experience matters more than ever in this market, especially this market. Okay, so you're talking about something really fundamental here, pricing strategy, experience, all that stuff. But then you pivot to something super specific about North Carolina being an attorney-closing state.
Host: I gotta say, I didn't even know that was a thing. So break that down for us. What does that actually mean for sellers? One of the things I wanted to tell you that we are transitioning to slowly, but maybe more quickly, is in North Carolina, it's an attorney-closing state, which means you have, whereas a lot of states, title companies close deals, but typically attorneys in North Carolina close deals, and they work for the buyer.
Host: And then there's the other side where the seller, it's called a seller document preparation. Well, the same closing attorney can do the seller docs, and there's nothing wrong with that, because there's typically a little bit of discount for that, and the fees can be anywhere between 250 and 400 and some dollars, whatever. Depending on the complexity, now if you have to have a mobile notary, like if you live out of town, it can be more than that. But one thing that we're starting to struggle with is because attorneys get busy, economics play into it, they don't necessarily have enough staff to take care of everything, whereas it used to be it was pretty commonplace for a seller to have a scheduled time to come in, sign the documents, the attorney would come in, go over the documents, answer questions, and things like that.
Host: That's just not the way it's done in most cases, unfortunately. Now, literally, we had an instance where it could be done in a reception area right in front of other people, which was very not good, and it's just not the way to do it. They just tell you to come by any time. But that's a big deal.
Host: If you're selling your property, that step, that is one of the final steps to selling. That's not the settlement statement where all the numbers are, but signing the deed has to be done a few days before closing in North Carolina so that the closing attorney can then make sure the title insurance is okay with the deed, the way it's transferring the deed, and it has to be a wet signature, which means notarized, real signature, not electronic. And then it has to be recorded at the county registered deeds office. And that is a tremendously important instrument, and it has to be done a few days before closing so that everybody can approve it.
Host: If there's a lender involved, if there's a title company involved, which there's always gonna be a title company involved, and the closing attorney has to approve it. Wow, okay. So you're saying that the way it's been done, where the buyer's attorney just handles the seller docs on the cheap, is starting to show some real cracks, and you're moving toward actually having sellers get their own representation. But here's what I'm curious about.
Host: You mentioned this case you just closed today with all the estate stuff and the step-up basis complications. That sounds like it could have gone sideways pretty quick without the right attorney. Tell us about that situation. So with that said, we are moving back to, and we're finding some attorneys that are prepared to do this, where it's actually seller representation.
Host: It costs the seller a little bit more money, and they don't have to do it. They can still go that route. But there's so many questions that need to be answered. And as a real estate agent, I can't answer definitively tax information, step-up basis.
Host: I can give them words to ask and questions to ask and point them in directions where they do need an attorney to talk through things. And to give you an example, we just closed one today, and it was a family situation. It was an estate, which there's a lot of those, and there's all kinds of step-up basis involved. And it was actually a few different transactions all put together, and it kind of dominoed.
Host: And I sent them to an attorney that I've known for going on 30 years. He's a friend of mine. He is working, but he doesn't do closings anymore. But he represents sellers, and he does a lot of commercial deals, rights leases, subdivision stuff, very complicated stuff.
Host: In my opinion, he's one of the probably most brightest minds still around in the business. But he works till 12 every day, and he does his own work. There's no paralegals, no assistants involved now, because his stage of his business, he's been able to focus on what he likes to do, and he builds by the hour. So to give you an example, in this situation, come to find out, and of course we don't know it, there's situations where estates aren't closed properly by another attorney, deeds aren't cut, step-up basis aren't done.
Host: And all of these things can have tax consequences, not just for the sellers now, but for generationally. It can create situations that could be remedied if they had a consultation. So I just had one today, and it went really well, and it got a little bit complicated, to be honest, on our side, because of all the moving parts. I'll not go into the details, because it's kind of private.
Host: But long story short is, and my attorney friend, his name is Alan, he's also been a partner on me, with me on different ventures over the years, and we still own a building together. But in the end, he was able to sit, first off, he answers the phone call, he talks to him. You have direct access to the attorney, conversations about things, to make sure everything's perfect. Then he sits down with you, and he goes over all these questions.
Host: Explains how you might want to get an appraisal to make sure that if there's ever an audit, or anything like that, so you've got the fair market value as of the time of the deceased passing, and then you getting the property. Now, you may never need that, but you could need that. And in the case of this, this is a large transaction, and it also led to an even larger transaction. And it could have been hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes, but he was able to advise them of these things.
Host: Okay, so this is the thing. You're saying hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential taxes could have been missed if Alan hadn't been involved. And he's charging more, yeah. But you're actually getting access to someone who understands the full picture.
Host: I think what's wild is you also acknowledge that you and other realtors are part of the problem, right? You're calling attorneys last minute, asking them to jam deals in. So it's kind of a vicious cycle. There's no way that the buyer's attorney who's doing the deed prep for a couple hundred dollars, two or three hundred dollars, is gonna be able to do that.
Host: First off, you're likely not gonna get a slotted time to come in, and you're probably, may or may not, be able to get the attorney on the phone. And I just had a recent situation. I was trying to close a deal, and I couldn't get attorneys on the phone. And I'm involved in the transaction as a real estate agent.
Host: And that's no slant on attorneys. A lot of them are understaffed because things have started picking back up. And when things slow down, we all have to make decisions and cut back. Well, now you gotta get the staff back.
Host: You gotta get them trained. Well, that takes time. And then it's hard to say no to opportunities. And then when you got a bunch of realtors like me calling you left and right, hey, can you work this in, can you work this in, all at the last minute, it does create trouble for attorneys.
Host: And there are some wonderful attorneys in this area. I'm happy to share numerous ones. And I've got my favorite ones that I've used, and I do my business with. But I've also got my ones that I prefer not to deal with too.
Host: Nothing against them personally, it's just, it doesn't happen well. But I just wanna tell you that if you're a seller, and you're selling a piece of property, now if it's a simple transaction, no big deal, you live there, all these things, there's nothing wrong with letting the buyer's agent, I mean the buyer's attorney doing the seller documentation. Nothing wrong at all about it. But if there's any complication, if there's an estate, if there's inheritance, if there's tax implications, if there's flaws in the title, if there's liens, if there's judgments, it really behooves you to get seller representation with an attorney.
Host: It will cost you, not thousands of dollars, more. I'm talking about going from 400 to maybe six or $700. And that way you actually get some time to ask questions, make sure you're doing it right. And so many times it blends in the questions around other things that you need planning for.
Host: Hey, I was thinking about I need some help for this. You know, maybe you need a life estate, maybe you need a trust and you want questions about it. They can also answer those questions. But if you just do it the way it's going now, which everybody's just thinking about cheap, cheap, cheap, you never really get to get that professional advice.
Host: And we're gonna start moving back to that and slow. I love that you're being honest about that. You're not just blaming attorneys. You're saying, hey, we're doing this too.
Host: But the bottom line is, and correct me if I'm wrong, if there's anything complicated about your sale, you should probably invest a couple hundred extra bucks to get your own attorney who actually has time to sit down with you and think through the whole picture, right? Process down just a little bit. We're gonna offer it. Obviously, our seller clients have the decision to do whatever they wanna do.
Host: But I am finding it more and more valuable to put it in the hands of an attorney that will make the time to schedule the time, and they're charging for the time, to sit down, have a conference and talk through things, not just in the lobby, have someone sign, sign, sign, notarize here. So again, that is not a slant on that process. That is the way we've done it for years. It is the way most of the transactions are done, at least in our area in North Carolina, a tremendous amount of them.
Host: But I know that we are working into doing that and having those conversations with sellers on the front end. Because some of these things, once you close it and you're done, you can't go back and fix it. So you need to have to, you need somebody that's an attorney that really understands all this stuff and the unintended consequences to get this done. So if you're selling a house and you're not with me, that's fine.
Host: I'm happy to share who I would recommend. And there's a couple, but there's one in particular. But otherwise, I'm glad to have a conversation about this. And again, I really want to say, there's some great attorneys that we work with in this town and I've worked with for decades and are fantastic, but they can't do everything because I'm sitting here saying this, but then I'll pick up the phone and I'll call an attorney and say, hey, can you jam this deal in?
Host: All of a sudden we got this cash offer and it needs to close in 10 days. Can you do the title search? Can you get everything done? And so they're doing those things too.
Host: So we're talking out of both sides of our mouth a little bit as realtors, because it's easy to complain about getting it done, access and things like that. But the other side of it is we're jamming stuff on them at the last minute. Anyway, seller representation, it's not normally done. It is always done on commercial deals, interestingly enough, or development deals.
Host: And I think that it's worth a few extra hundred dollars as a seller to make sure everything is done well and done properly, especially if there's estates involved, trusts involved, anything that could potentially be tax implicatable. Buddy, I really appreciate you coming on and laying this out so clearly. It's not just about saving a few bucks on closing costs. It's about protecting yourself from mistakes that you literally can't fix after the deal closes.
Host: And that's something every seller needs to hear. Thanks so much for being here and for sharing who you'd recommend to. This was really valuable.


